GUIDE TO THE CHURCH ROLL - VERSION 3

Edward Johnson

February 2005

 

 

This Roll is a list of all the people we have been able to find who are, or have ever been, members of Cane Creek Baptist Church.  We hope that this information will prove useful to people investigating their family roots. Below, we indicate where the names on our list have come from. Then we give a guide to using the list. We end with a plea for you to help us fill in the gaps. We give you an easy way to help us with this task.

 

 This is our third version. It adds about 300 names (mainly from 1870 to 1920) and deletes about 100 duplications. The next version will eliminate more duplications, indicate spouses and parentage, and add missing dates

 

SOURCES OF INFORMATION

 

ROLLS. The Clerk keeps a roll of members. He adds new names as people join and marks through names when people leave the church. From time to time a new roll is created because an old roll can become so modified that it is hard to use. After the fire of 1829, a new roll was created (our earliest surviving roll). Another was created in 1856. Rolls also appear at the front of Minute Books kept since this date.

 

MINUTES.  The Clerk keeps a record of business meetings. Up until the 1960s, these occurred every month. Thereafter, they occurred as needed.  The minutes (before 1960) record the names of all new members, tell how they joined (by baptism or by transfer of letter), and also record when members left the church through dismissal (I.e. the granting of a letter that allows the bearer to affiliate with another Baptist church), death, or exclusion for some offense against the church. The minutes also refer to members by name when they are appointed to some task, come before the church for discipline, etc.

 

Sadly, we have gaps in the record. The church was founded in 1789. But minutes are missing for about a third of these years. Fire in 1829 destroyed the first 40 years of minutes. The Clerk who kept the minutes from 1849 to 1864 lost them and was excluded because of his carelessness. We are also missing the years 1933 to 1940. These are the largest of the gaps but there are scattered smaller ones.  A rough estimate of the number of members Cane Creek has ever had assumes an average of about ten new members a year. This gives a rough estimate of 2200 members. But Cane Creek has spun off a number of "daughter" churches (including Antioch, Mars Hill, Cross Roads, Bethel, and Hickory Grove). In the process, Cane Creek took in members from other communities and then issued them letters of dismissal. This increases our membership beyond the estimated 2200 by an unknown amount. Presently, our list has about 2500 names and is growing slowly.

 

CEMETERY LISTS AND OTHER SOURCES. We have compared the names on our roll with names on our cemetery list in order to get birth and death dates and to help clarify names. We have also gotten information from descendants. And we have examined George Purifoy's History of the Sandy Creek Association, the diary of James Mason, and other historical documents for names.

 

A GUIDE TO THE LIST

 

One line is devoted to each person.  Each person is identified by

- name: First,  middle, and last;

- sex: M or F;

- Dates: Joining, birth, death, dismissal, and exclusion;

            - Comments: Nickname, spouse's name, parents' names, reason for exclusion, etc.

 

NAMES

Handwriting is often quite hard to decipher. Many times, we have to make a guess at a name or hope that it is written again more clearly. Another problem is that the same person may be identified in different ways. Thus "J. Cates" may later be referred to as J. C. Cates" or as "John Cates" or even "Jack Cates." There may be no clue as to whether we are dealing with one person or two or three or four. We have tended to give these variations separate listings just in case they refer to different people. Variations in spelling also may occur because the Clerk may not have been a good speller.

 

Another problem has to do with maiden and married names. This listing contains two entries for many female members, one with their maiden name and one with their married name. If a woman married a second or third time within the church membership, her name will be listed separately for each marriage.  The listing notes (in the comment field) when we know that this occurs. Since our minutes make no mention of marriages there is no way of knowing where these duplications occur. We have consulted family genealogies and asked our older members to search their memories in order to fill in these gaps.

 

Still another problem is when the Clerk refers to a couple not as "John and Mary Smith," but as "John Smith and wife."  So we list the wife as "Smith,  (Mrs.) John." As we  discover wives' given names, we will add them to later versions.

 

DATES

Because of the gaps in our records, it is not always possible to know the exact year when a person joined. In this case, the list gives the earliest known date followed by a minus sign. Thus 1856- should be read as "1856 or earlier." Sometimes we use a plus sign. Thus 1856+ means "1856 or later."

 

If a person joined the church by transfer of church letter, the date is followed by "L."

 

Another problem is the case when a name appears in our records for the first time when the person is being disciplined, appointed to a committee, or issued a letter of dismissal. This occurs well over a  hundred times. In these cases, the date joined will be this date followed by a minus sign. Dashes are sometimes used to indicate uncertain dates.

 

COMMENTS

The comment field is used to indicate nicknames, who is married to whom, and who is the child of whom. This field also gives the reason for exclusion in disciplinary cases. Most early churches took on the responsibility of looking after the behavior of their members. When an accused member failed to show remorse and beg for forgiveness, he or she might be excluded and the reason noted in the minutes. The language is quoted directly from the minutes and can be quite raw. You will see the phrases "adultery," fornication." bringing forth a bastard child," "fatally striking with a hoe,"  "repeated drunkenness," and  "being associated with a still." We hope that this can be read tolerantly for it only indicates our human nature. As our preacher commented when we asked him about the propriety of including this information: " I'm inclined to say that we should include the information. We are not a perfect church nor are the people who have been part of us perfect either. The fact that we have kicked people out of the church is perhaps more of a black mark on those who remained and did the kicking out. Isn't the church supposed to be a hospital for sinners?"

 

PLEASE HELP

We need your help with the list.  Here is a brief list of information we need:

 

NAMES: Help us with the spelling; supply missing middle names, names where we have only initials; maiden names, and where a woman is known only as "Mrs." We also need the names of people who have joined since 2000!!!

 

DATES: Help us pin down exact dates where we have had to use plus and minus signs; supply us with birth and death years.

 

COMMENTS: Tell us who parents are; who is married to whom; where people went after they left Cane Creek (town and state); and where people are buried. This is the sort of information that genealogists want.

 

If you live in the community, you can find a hard copy of the list in the church office. Please feel free to write new information directly on the copy. Please indicate the source of the information. For example, Mary Andrews should note that she is the source of information on the Andrews family. You may borrow our hard copy but please return it as soon as possible.

 

You may obtain an EXCEL version of the list from me. This will facilitate your own family research by enabling you to do sorts and other spreadsheet operations. But please note that the list is copyrighted by Cane Creek Church and that use of the information must be so credited (except for individuals doing family genealogy).

 

Send information by email to

ed_johnson@unc.edu.

 

Send information by snail mail to

Edward Johnson

6000 Buckhorn Road

Hillsborough, NC 27278